Clint Eastwood has just finished up a big interview with Esquire. And he’s not pulling any punches. Like many Americans, Eastwood isn’t happy with his choices for the presidency in 2016.

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“What Trump is onto is he’s just saying what’s on his mind. And sometimes it’s not so good. And sometimes it’s, I mean, I can understand where he’s coming from, but I don’t always agree with it.”

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While he’s hardly as eloquent as his scripted personas, Eastwood still commands a certain respect. He endorsed Romney in 2012–and the Republicans are still hoping he’ll come out and stump for Trump.

“I haven’t endorsed anybody,” he said.

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“I haven’t talked to Trump. I haven’t talked to anybody. You know, he’s a racist now because he’s talked about this judge. And yeah, it’s a dumb thing to say. I mean, to predicate your opinion on the fact that the guy was born to Mexican parents or something,” Eastwood said.

So it that the reason he won’t stand behind Trump?

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“He’s said a lot of dumb things. So have all of them. Both sides. But everybody—the press and everybody’s going, ‘Oh, well, that’s racist,’ and they’re making a big hoodoo out of it. Just fucking get over it. It’s a sad time in history.”

But don’t assume this means he would cast a ballot for the Democratic nominee. “What about her?” he asked. “I mean, it’s a tough voice to listen to for four years. It could be a tough one. If she’s just gonna follow what we’ve been doing, then I wouldn’t be for her.”


I’m not sure here if he’s literally referring to her voice, or if there’s a deeper metaphor at work in this statement. Either way, he’s no fan of Clinton.

“I’d have to go for Trump. You know, ’cause she’s declared that she’s gonna follow in Obama’s footsteps. There’s been just too much funny business on both sides of the aisle. She’s made a lot of dough out of being a politician. I gave up dough to be a politician. I’m sure that Ronald Reagan gave up dough to be a politician.”

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True enough. Yet both he and Reagan were very successful actors before venturing into politics.

The folks at Esquire asked him about his infamous address to the invisible Barack Obama at the Republican National Convention back in 2012.

“It was silly at the time, but I was standing backstage and I’m hearing everybody say the same thing: ‘Oh, this guy’s a great guy,’” Eastwood remembered. “Great, he’s a great guy. I’ve got to say something more. And so I’m listening to an old Neil Diamond thing and he’s going, ‘And no one heard at all–Not even the chair.’”

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“And I’m thinking, That’s Obama. He doesn’t go to work. He doesn’t go down to Congress and make a deal. What the hell’s he doing sitting in the White House?”

The thought inspired him.

“If I were in that job, I’d get down there and make a deal. Sure, Congress are lazy bastards, but so what? You’re the top guy. You’re the president of the company.”

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There he goes with the metaphors again.

“It’s your responsibility to make sure everybody does well. It’s the same with every company in this country, whether it’s a two-man company or a two-hundred-man company. And that’s the pussy generation — nobody wants to work.”

Though he hasn’t come out and endorsed Trump officially, Eastwood is certainly hitting many of the same notes as the Trump campaign.